A possie in Aussie

April 28, 2009

Real boatpeople tell the truth

Filed under: asylum,asylum seeker — Nayano @ 8:40 am
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Why don’t they ‘line up’ in the UNHCR queue?

Do they ‘choose’ Australia because of its immigration policies?

Some answers in stories from ‘boatpeople’:

When ‘x’ left Afghanistan he was 2 or 3 days in Pakistan, and then the smuggler took him to Indonesia. Hi group was in Indonesia about one month – but every 2 or 3 days the smuggler moved them from place to place, from Bali to Jakarta and so on. The people running the hotels watched them, and they couldn’t speak English, so they had no way out.

A Pashtun in Afghanistan told ‘y’ that he would help him. He took him to people-smugglers in Pakistan. The smuggler took his money and made him wait one and a half months until he was taken to Indonesia. The man  knew nothing about the UN and applying for refugee status in Pakistan. Once he arrived in Bali his group had to wait for one month. The smuggler told him that he couldn’t leave the hotel because he would be arrested. Then the group was taken bus to Lombok. The police caught them and took their passports and money and told them they had to wait for the UN.  They waited four months and then the smuggler told the police he would get them out of their hair and take them to Australia if the police returned their passports. The smuggler got their passports and they went to Australia.

‘Z’ was in Jakarta for 11 days, and then 3 different places, like Surabiah, and other names not known.   These moves were made by bus, and  there were about 150 people in the group.   This smuggler’s name is not known. The group stayed in a hotel and ate sliced bread, tomatoes and eggs. The smugglers told them not to talk to anyone, and he did not know where he was. He did not ask for UNHCR because he did not know of this group.

As Andrew Bartlett says: A policy approach to asylum seekers focused only on stopping all boat arrivals, regardless of all the related issues, risks entrenching a view that the victims of major human rights abuses, even in our near-neighbourhood, are someone else’s problem as long as we can keep them out of Australian territory. Is a ‘no boats’ goal all that matters?



  1. Sadly,Andrew Bartlett was convinced by a post by Feral Abacus to close his blog on this matter,whereas the issue of Sri Lanka continues,and all sorts of influences are still at work in that country that will impact on wether Australia and Australians will find in themselves, potentials to solve immediate problems of boat arrivals.The case involving the people smuggler now extradited from Indonesia, seems to me further experiments at law are taking place.If the point that he could of negotiated for his own Australian citizenship by letting on to Australian Authorities what he knew.Tedious as it is, to think, this case is running simply because of Rudd unable to in a Parliamentary and Legislative sense, to find some attitudes, to discourage what has been woefully characterised as illegality of entry into Australia.I would of thought,there is enough shit about continuous American Administrations to throw the Ally stuff away,and talk direct to Iran, about people who find Iran unlivable,and, thus encourage a new attitude there,if there is a need to,and find the people who would,in a more measured way for both countries. Cannot rock the boat it seems.The poms are looking, finally up their own backsides about their role in Iraq..the same potential already exists as Iraq has a relationship with us.Visit first,by usual means, thus host country and visitor country don’t have to paddle up bullshit creek! Australia could send a warship to Sri Lanka and, seek, in a friendly manner the resolving of differences in the same way.After all many Sri Lankans would have a normal right to visit and seek citizenship.Why over dramatise it,simply if we feel the Tamils, Muslims and others have had a bad deal! I think we need to wonder what has happened in Fiji.Is it necessary to have themes of who will be the boat people week by week,by those unable to try new approaches as ideas are threats!?

    Comment by philiptravers — May 27, 2009 @ 10:25 am | Reply

    • Thanks for the heads up, Phillip.
      You have raised many issues in your comment, and I sadly don’t have time to reply to them today – I am currently struggling to get the essentials done before I board a plane to go to a settlement conference.
      Thanks agian!

      Comment by nayano — May 27, 2009 @ 12:18 pm | Reply

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